1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,139 [Opening theme music] 2 00:00:13,747 --> 00:00:18,118 Hello, and welcome to this episode of ArtsAbly in Conversation. 3 00:00:18,118 --> 00:00:20,153 My name is Diane Kolin. 4 00:00:20,186 --> 00:00:25,492 This series presents artists, academics, and project leaders who dedicate their 5 00:00:25,492 --> 00:00:31,431 time and energy to a better accessibility for people with disabilities in the arts. 6 00:00:31,464 --> 00:00:36,569 You can find more of these conversations on our website, artsably.com, 7 00:00:36,569 --> 00:00:41,508 which is spelled A-R-T-S-A-B-L-Y dot com. 8 00:00:42,809 --> 00:00:47,947 [Theme music] 9 00:00:55,188 --> 00:00:59,993 Today, ArtsAbly is in conversation with Deshaymond, a singer, songwriter, 10 00:00:59,993 --> 00:01:03,063 and producer living in Atlanta. 11 00:01:03,096 --> 00:01:06,933 You can find the resources mentioned by Deshaymond during this episode 12 00:01:06,933 --> 00:01:10,837 on ArtsAbly's website, in the blog section. 13 00:01:11,337 --> 00:01:13,339 [Prisoner by Deshaymond] 14 00:01:13,339 --> 00:01:21,114 Let me crying, oh. 15 00:01:22,015 --> 00:01:29,889 I'm crying, oh. 16 00:01:33,026 --> 00:01:36,396 I lie awake. 17 00:01:36,396 --> 00:01:41,701 I see your face at night. 18 00:01:41,701 --> 00:01:44,838 I call your name. 19 00:01:44,838 --> 00:01:48,208 Please hear my lonely ply 20 00:01:48,208 --> 00:01:52,545 'cause I indure the pain I feel 21 00:01:52,545 --> 00:01:56,883 when I sleep alone at night. 22 00:01:56,883 --> 00:02:01,988 I try so hard to breathe myself and 23 00:02:01,988 --> 00:02:04,791 all I can do is cry 24 00:02:04,791 --> 00:02:07,827 'cause I 25 00:02:07,827 --> 00:02:11,931 I 26 00:02:11,931 --> 00:02:21,007 the reason I no more 27 00:02:21,007 --> 00:02:29,415 You got me crying, oh. 28 00:02:30,049 --> 00:02:36,756 I'm crying, oh. 29 00:02:38,791 --> 00:02:46,766 I don't 30 00:02:48,801 --> 00:02:57,443 wohoooooo 31 00:02:57,944 --> 00:03:01,114 I don't want, 32 00:03:01,114 --> 00:03:03,182 I don't want to leave you. 33 00:03:03,216 --> 00:03:06,986 There's nothing enough you. 34 00:03:06,986 --> 00:03:10,657 I don't want to love you. 35 00:03:10,657 --> 00:03:15,161 It's nothing enough, oh. 36 00:03:15,161 --> 00:03:21,367 I don't want to be your prisoner no more. 37 00:03:21,401 --> 00:03:24,737 Your prisoner. 38 00:03:27,907 --> 00:03:31,477 Welcome to this new episode of ArtsAbly in Conversation. 39 00:03:31,511 --> 00:03:36,583 Today, I am with Deshaymond, who is a singer, songwriter, 40 00:03:36,583 --> 00:03:39,986 and producer living in Atlanta. 41 00:03:40,019 --> 00:03:41,821 Welcome, Deshaymond. 42 00:03:42,388 --> 00:03:45,391 Thank you. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. 43 00:03:45,858 --> 00:03:51,531 Well, I've listened to your work and it's really fascinating, a little bit of your story 44 00:03:51,531 --> 00:03:58,104 and we are here to talk about your journey in your musical activities today. 45 00:03:58,137 --> 00:04:01,474 So I wanted to ask if you could 46 00:04:01,474 --> 00:04:05,178 tell us a little bit about your background, 47 00:04:05,178 --> 00:04:10,783 where you come from, where you grew up, and also your first musical experiences. 48 00:04:10,783 --> 00:04:13,653 Where did music come from in your life? 49 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,021 Oh, yeah. 50 00:04:15,021 --> 00:04:17,457 Again, thank you for having me. 51 00:04:17,490 --> 00:04:21,127 I really love your work, and I love what you're doing with ArtsAbly 52 00:04:21,127 --> 00:04:23,196 so thank you for doing it. 53 00:04:23,229 --> 00:04:25,365 My name is Deshaymond. 54 00:04:25,398 --> 00:04:29,469 I'm originally from Lafayette, Louisiana, USA. 55 00:04:29,502 --> 00:04:32,872 And this is my... 56 00:04:32,905 --> 00:04:36,843 Music is my first act that I'm going back to. 57 00:04:36,843 --> 00:04:40,113 So my second act in life, but my first act. 58 00:04:40,146 --> 00:04:45,785 I've been studying music since I was five years old, studying classical music 59 00:04:45,785 --> 00:04:48,621 since I was five years old. 60 00:04:48,655 --> 00:04:53,293 Just living in a neighborhood that 61 00:04:53,326 --> 00:04:56,162 studying classical is not necessarily 62 00:04:56,162 --> 00:04:59,198 the thing that a lot of people do. 63 00:04:59,198 --> 00:05:01,134 It It was a little bit hard. 64 00:05:01,167 --> 00:05:02,702 I didn't quite fit in. 65 00:05:02,735 --> 00:05:06,539 I was definitely one of those music nerds and all of that stuff. 66 00:05:06,572 --> 00:05:11,077 But I did grow up doing that and fell in love with music. 67 00:05:11,110 --> 00:05:18,484 I started writing songs at a very young age, and I played a few instruments. 68 00:05:18,484 --> 00:05:21,354 One of my first instruments was the triangle. 69 00:05:21,387 --> 00:05:25,158 Then it became the cymbal and the woodblock. 70 00:05:25,158 --> 00:05:30,897 And then, of course, everyone's first wind instrument is recorder, right? 71 00:05:30,930 --> 00:05:38,004 So I started playing that, and I moved up to playing flute and piccolo. 72 00:05:38,004 --> 00:05:42,442 So I played a few instruments, and I just love music. 73 00:05:42,442 --> 00:05:45,745 I went through high school competing 74 00:05:45,745 --> 00:05:50,149 and also college competing in music for voice 75 00:05:50,183 --> 00:05:53,319 and also instrumental music. 76 00:05:53,319 --> 00:05:56,723 And then life got real. 77 00:05:56,723 --> 00:05:59,358 Adulting became real, you know. 78 00:05:59,358 --> 00:06:04,530 And I had a career in Corporate America 79 00:06:04,831 --> 00:06:06,799 in payroll and HR. 80 00:06:06,799 --> 00:06:08,401 How boring, right? For an artist. 81 00:06:08,401 --> 00:06:13,306 But payroll and HR paid the bills while 82 00:06:13,306 --> 00:06:16,109 I was going through life and figuring it out. 83 00:06:16,642 --> 00:06:19,979 And I had some great, great opportunities there 84 00:06:19,979 --> 00:06:22,148 because I actually learned the business. 85 00:06:22,181 --> 00:06:26,652 I learned business as a whole, which helps me now in my career 86 00:06:26,686 --> 00:06:29,222 as an entrepreneur, a music entrepreneur. 87 00:06:29,689 --> 00:06:32,425 The music business is a whole new animal, but at least 88 00:06:32,425 --> 00:06:34,560 I have the business acumen now. 89 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:40,800 In 2015, I lost my sight, my eyesight. 90 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:46,072 It started deteriorating rapidly due to a condition I have called optic atrophy. 91 00:06:46,105 --> 00:06:50,676 And it just led me to make so many different life changes and 92 00:06:50,676 --> 00:06:55,114 I had to go and find myself again and find what really moved me, 93 00:06:55,148 --> 00:06:58,251 what I was really passionate about. 94 00:06:58,584 --> 00:07:01,654 And it led me back to music. 95 00:07:01,687 --> 00:07:04,824 It really showed me that I'm supposed to be doing this. 96 00:07:04,857 --> 00:07:07,693 And now I'm so in love with my career. 97 00:07:07,727 --> 00:07:09,162 I'm so in love with my art. 98 00:07:09,162 --> 00:07:14,400 I'm so in love with anything to do with music that I'm on fire for it. 99 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,839 So that's the long story of who I am 100 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:23,409 and how I came to be a music artist. 101 00:07:23,643 --> 00:07:29,015 So you were trained in classical with all these instruments, percussive instruments 102 00:07:29,048 --> 00:07:32,351 and wind instruments and everything. 103 00:07:32,385 --> 00:07:37,356 As a classical, did you do a lot as a classical musician, or was it just 104 00:07:37,390 --> 00:07:41,594 during your studies, and then you decided to go another way? 105 00:07:41,627 --> 00:07:44,030 It was mostly during my studies. 106 00:07:44,063 --> 00:07:50,203 I did it in high school and also in college. 107 00:07:50,203 --> 00:07:52,939 But my personal passion 108 00:07:52,939 --> 00:07:59,078 was always RnB, soul, pop music 109 00:07:59,078 --> 00:08:02,014 with a little bit of blues and Southern soul and rock. 110 00:08:02,048 --> 00:08:04,717 So that was always my personal favorite. 111 00:08:04,750 --> 00:08:10,256 And I leveraged everything I learned classically, both as a singer and 112 00:08:10,256 --> 00:08:14,627 just as a musician, and just pour little bitty bits 113 00:08:14,660 --> 00:08:18,431 of classical into everything that I do, whether it's like vowel placement 114 00:08:18,431 --> 00:08:22,401 or it's how I hold a note or my vibrato or something. 115 00:08:22,435 --> 00:08:26,239 I try to put a little bit of my classical training in there 116 00:08:26,239 --> 00:08:31,010 while still trying to give soulful because that's really where my heart is. 117 00:08:31,744 --> 00:08:32,178 Yes. 118 00:08:32,211 --> 00:08:35,481 I could hear that in your last album, by the way. 119 00:08:35,481 --> 00:08:38,851 Thank you. 120 00:08:39,619 --> 00:08:44,190 Can you talk about what you're doing now? 121 00:08:44,223 --> 00:08:49,228 This this album, but also you're a producer. 122 00:08:49,228 --> 00:08:53,299 How long did it take for you to produce this album? 123 00:08:53,332 --> 00:08:55,701 What were your challenges along the way? 124 00:08:56,736 --> 00:08:59,839 It took me... 125 00:08:59,839 --> 00:09:04,143 I started working on this album years ago, actually. 126 00:09:04,176 --> 00:09:07,847 This album was supposed to be here years ago when I first 127 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,251 did music in my early 20s before Corporate America and all of that stuff. 128 00:09:12,285 --> 00:09:17,423 But it was so good to go back and pick up those songs, dust them off, 129 00:09:17,456 --> 00:09:22,428 re-imagine them, and bring it to life. 130 00:09:22,461 --> 00:09:28,601 I actually started rerecording this album in 2021, December of 2021. 131 00:09:28,601 --> 00:09:32,405 I worked with with one of my great friends, 132 00:09:32,405 --> 00:09:35,107 Grammy nominated producer Supah Mario. 133 00:09:35,141 --> 00:09:37,176 He helped me through it. 134 00:09:37,209 --> 00:09:42,114 Literally, he called me out of the blue and asked me to sing at his wedding, 135 00:09:42,148 --> 00:09:44,183 and I had not sang in years. 136 00:09:44,216 --> 00:09:46,852 And we just talked for hours. 137 00:09:46,886 --> 00:09:50,389 And I'm like, Rich, I really don't know what I'm doing. 138 00:09:50,423 --> 00:09:52,258 I don't have the corporate career anymore. 139 00:09:52,258 --> 00:09:54,293 I don't know what I need to do. 140 00:09:54,327 --> 00:09:58,831 And I'm like, if I decided to do music again, would you help me? 141 00:09:58,864 --> 00:10:00,600 And he said in a heartbeat. 142 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,035 And the rest is history. 143 00:10:03,035 --> 00:10:05,304 Of course, I ended up performing at his wedding, and he had 144 00:10:05,338 --> 00:10:08,474 such a beautiful wedding, he and his lovely wife, Jacquelyn. 145 00:10:08,507 --> 00:10:10,576 And we worked on this album. 146 00:10:10,610 --> 00:10:11,978 He came to Atlanta. 147 00:10:12,011 --> 00:10:13,613 I went to Houston. 148 00:10:13,646 --> 00:10:16,749 We just worked and worked and worked until we got it right. 149 00:10:16,782 --> 00:10:23,189 And we were happy with the sound and everything that we created. 150 00:10:23,222 --> 00:10:29,028 And 2024, here it is. "I am." 151 00:10:29,629 --> 00:10:34,166 Yeah. So tell us more about this album. 152 00:10:34,767 --> 00:10:37,570 "I am" is, of course, my debut album. 153 00:10:37,603 --> 00:10:39,305 I hold it so close to my heart 154 00:10:39,338 --> 00:10:43,643 because it really is, 155 00:10:43,643 --> 00:10:46,612 to me, in my very, very humble opinion, 156 00:10:46,612 --> 00:10:49,148 a depiction of all of the little bitty 157 00:10:49,148 --> 00:10:53,719 parts of me that make me who I am, right? 158 00:10:53,719 --> 00:10:55,554 I'm a little bit sophisticated. 159 00:10:55,588 --> 00:10:57,223 I'm a little bit ratchet. 160 00:10:57,256 --> 00:11:02,695 I grew up in the gutta, but I'm also a classical musician. 161 00:11:02,728 --> 00:11:07,199 I also sing opera and classical music. 162 00:11:07,233 --> 00:11:09,835 So I think I'm a good balance of both. 163 00:11:09,869 --> 00:11:12,505 And that's what this album is. 164 00:11:12,538 --> 00:11:17,243 The songs are real stories that I've experienced in my own life. 165 00:11:17,810 --> 00:11:23,215 The instrumentation, the music, I tried to do, of course, 166 00:11:23,215 --> 00:11:26,752 some of the stuff in the dawn, new sounds that 167 00:11:26,752 --> 00:11:29,522 really sounded like real instruments 168 00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:35,294 mixed in with live instruments, which a lot of people don't do anymore. 169 00:11:35,327 --> 00:11:37,797 But I wanted it to have that authentic feel. 170 00:11:37,830 --> 00:11:41,834 And what I think "I am" is not only is it a depiction 171 00:11:41,867 --> 00:11:44,503 of who I am, but it's also human. 172 00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:47,273 It's a very human piece of music. 173 00:11:47,306 --> 00:11:50,676 I didn't want every song to be so perfect. 174 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:54,280 You know how people record now where they record line by line. 175 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,817 And every little thing is so prim and proper and perfect. 176 00:11:57,850 --> 00:12:02,321 I wanted to hear some rest, and I wanted people to be able 177 00:12:02,354 --> 00:12:04,123 to hear when my voice broke. 178 00:12:04,123 --> 00:12:07,226 I wanted people to hear me emoting in a way. 179 00:12:07,259 --> 00:12:11,163 If I was gravelly that day or if I wanted to just push really, 180 00:12:11,197 --> 00:12:14,333 really hard, I wanted them to hear every breath and all of that. 181 00:12:14,366 --> 00:12:18,370 So Rich and I, we didn't use any auto-tune. 182 00:12:18,404 --> 00:12:20,005 We didn't use any of that. 183 00:12:20,005 --> 00:12:24,410 We left it as organic as possible while still trying 184 00:12:24,443 --> 00:12:26,679 to make sure it was polished. 185 00:12:26,712 --> 00:12:31,784 And this album, the way it sounds and the way it feels to me, I just want people to 186 00:12:31,784 --> 00:12:37,456 understand who I am and just really enjoy quality human music because everything 187 00:12:37,490 --> 00:12:40,493 is so mechanical and computerized now. 188 00:12:40,493 --> 00:12:44,697 We're not feeling, at least for me, I'm not feeling the emotion in it. 189 00:12:44,730 --> 00:12:47,199 So I really wanted to make an emotional album that 190 00:12:47,199 --> 00:12:49,702 really made people feel something. 191 00:12:50,035 --> 00:12:53,305 And I really hope I did it. [Laughs.] 192 00:12:53,339 --> 00:12:56,308 My opinion is that you did. 193 00:12:56,342 --> 00:12:57,643 [Laughs.] 194 00:12:57,676 --> 00:12:59,945 Thank you, thank you, Diane. 195 00:12:59,979 --> 00:13:01,614 Tell the world. 196 00:13:01,647 --> 00:13:08,387 We will post that for sure on ArtsAbly's website so that people can listen to it. 197 00:13:08,420 --> 00:13:09,655 It's available everywhere now. 198 00:13:09,688 --> 00:13:13,159 It's above on Spotify and Apple Music. 199 00:13:13,159 --> 00:13:14,527 All over the world. 200 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:19,465 It's available everywhere internationally on all streaming services 201 00:13:19,465 --> 00:13:22,268 internationally. So we're really proud of that. 202 00:13:22,268 --> 00:13:27,640 And the reception has been warm so far, so I just want everybody to hear it. 203 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,978 If you have not heard it, it's called "I Am" by yours truly, Deshaymond. 204 00:13:33,012 --> 00:13:35,247 And it's a great body of work. 205 00:13:35,281 --> 00:13:39,685 So I'm such an album artist where I love the whole picture. 206 00:13:39,685 --> 00:13:41,253 Tell me a story. 207 00:13:41,287 --> 00:13:44,857 And I know people are moving away from that now, but I'm such an album artist. 208 00:13:44,890 --> 00:13:47,159 I love it. I grew up in the '90s, right? 209 00:13:47,159 --> 00:13:50,496 So where we had some of the greatest albums of all time 210 00:13:50,496 --> 00:13:53,899 in the '80s and '90s, in my humble opinion. 211 00:13:53,933 --> 00:13:58,837 So I wanted to make something that had a little bit of nostalgia 212 00:13:58,837 --> 00:14:03,275 and made people remember that, and it was a cohesive body of work. 213 00:14:03,275 --> 00:14:06,779 So yes, go stream it, please. 214 00:14:06,812 --> 00:14:11,817 And who are your singer's influences? 215 00:14:11,850 --> 00:14:12,952 Oh, my God. 216 00:14:12,985 --> 00:14:19,058 I have so many influences, but it's pretty... 217 00:14:19,091 --> 00:14:21,760 I would say I have an eclectic blend of singers. 218 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,997 So when I tell you, you're probably going to be like, huh? 219 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:27,833 But you know, 220 00:14:27,833 --> 00:14:32,538 my favorite artist of all time is Monica. 221 00:14:32,538 --> 00:14:34,373 Absolutely love Monica. 222 00:14:34,406 --> 00:14:39,678 I think that no one emotes like her in RnB and pop music, 223 00:14:39,678 --> 00:14:41,981 and I think that's a dying art. 224 00:14:42,014 --> 00:14:44,950 So she is definitely one of my influences. 225 00:14:44,984 --> 00:14:49,555 Luther Vandross, of course, I respect him so much. 226 00:14:49,588 --> 00:14:55,861 And knowing more of his story, knowing his sexuality that, of course, came out after 227 00:14:55,894 --> 00:15:01,834 his death and rest his soul, it It just really made me appreciate him even more. 228 00:15:01,867 --> 00:15:04,637 He taught all of us how to sing, really. 229 00:15:04,670 --> 00:15:09,975 But to know that he literally had to sacrifice a piece of himself 230 00:15:10,009 --> 00:15:15,481 or hide a piece of himself to have this career and to influence 231 00:15:15,514 --> 00:15:19,184 so many people is very humbling. 232 00:15:19,218 --> 00:15:25,824 And I am proud to be an openly gay, disabled artist. 233 00:15:25,858 --> 00:15:27,960 I love to say that. 234 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,462 Maxwell is another one of my influences. 235 00:15:30,496 --> 00:15:32,031 I absolutely love him. 236 00:15:32,064 --> 00:15:36,936 I think his cool and his smooth and his sexy and his sophistication 237 00:15:36,969 --> 00:15:40,372 is what I really, really try to emulate a little bit, 238 00:15:40,372 --> 00:15:44,310 a little bit of his falsetto, but definitely 239 00:15:44,343 --> 00:15:48,480 his smooth and the way he delivers. 240 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,285 Lenny Kravitz is a huge inspiration to me. 241 00:15:53,285 --> 00:15:59,825 I just remember how bold he was and still is, obviously. 242 00:15:59,892 --> 00:16:07,433 Very sexy, but he's so himself, and there's nothing like his rock RAS. 243 00:16:07,466 --> 00:16:08,834 There's nothing like that. 244 00:16:08,867 --> 00:16:10,736 So I love Lenny Kravitz. 245 00:16:10,736 --> 00:16:15,607 Usher, Tevin Campbell, Brandy. 246 00:16:15,607 --> 00:16:22,548 Whitney Houston. Literally, I remember being six and seven years old and 247 00:16:22,548 --> 00:16:26,518 hearing Whitney Houston sing Miracle. 248 00:16:26,518 --> 00:16:29,488 I can't remember which album of hers that was off of, but I'm like 249 00:16:29,521 --> 00:16:31,156 I want to hit those notes. 250 00:16:31,190 --> 00:16:34,827 And how does she just hold it like that? 251 00:16:34,860 --> 00:16:40,265 So Whitney Houston, her entire catalog, is a lesson in breathing and power 252 00:16:40,299 --> 00:16:43,502 and tone and just goodness. 253 00:16:43,535 --> 00:16:46,739 So I don't know if there's a singer on this planet that has not 254 00:16:46,739 --> 00:16:48,907 been influenced by her in some way. 255 00:16:48,941 --> 00:16:50,776 And the list can go on and on. 256 00:16:50,809 --> 00:16:55,714 Of course, Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles. 257 00:16:55,748 --> 00:17:00,753 I pull energy from them being a blind artist. 258 00:17:00,786 --> 00:17:08,060 How operating as a blind person and still having to be on and be in front of people 259 00:17:08,093 --> 00:17:11,964 and you're not knowing what's going on around you half of the time, 260 00:17:11,997 --> 00:17:15,134 or you're not seeing people respond to you, but it's a feeling. 261 00:17:15,167 --> 00:17:16,435 It's an energy. 262 00:17:16,468 --> 00:17:21,073 So I definitely tap into them when I'm performing 263 00:17:21,106 --> 00:17:23,475 because I know what it's like now. 264 00:17:23,475 --> 00:17:28,013 I can almost feel what they felt like knowing that there's thousands of people 265 00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:34,219 looking at you, but you can't see them, and you have to imagine their faces 266 00:17:34,253 --> 00:17:36,455 and feel their energy. 267 00:17:36,488 --> 00:17:43,095 So many great musicians, I can't even name them all, but yeah. 268 00:17:43,128 --> 00:17:45,964 When I'm thinking of Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles, it was 269 00:17:45,998 --> 00:17:52,204 this energy that was so powerful that you could only react, right? 270 00:17:52,237 --> 00:17:59,011 You could only take it and have this joy of receiving and 271 00:17:59,044 --> 00:18:02,181 as an audience to give back. 272 00:18:02,214 --> 00:18:07,686 I mean, it's really to send this energy back and to feel it. 273 00:18:07,719 --> 00:18:12,324 I always had this feeling with them. 274 00:18:12,324 --> 00:18:15,994 That's something that is impactful. 275 00:18:15,994 --> 00:18:17,996 It definitely is. 276 00:18:17,996 --> 00:18:22,534 And it used to light me on fire a little bit because I loved the way... 277 00:18:22,568 --> 00:18:26,472 This is probably going to sound crazy, but I love the way 278 00:18:26,505 --> 00:18:29,107 Stevie Wonder moves when he performs. 279 00:18:29,141 --> 00:18:34,813 He is so... it doesn't have to look like what everyone else looks like, right? 280 00:18:34,847 --> 00:18:39,685 And I remember seeing him, and I remember Ray Charles sitting down at the piano, 281 00:18:39,718 --> 00:18:43,055 and he's just moving his body however the music moves him. 282 00:18:43,088 --> 00:18:47,493 And Stevie does that same thing, and it just shows that it was really 283 00:18:47,526 --> 00:18:48,994 coming from a different place. 284 00:18:48,994 --> 00:18:52,531 That music was really coming from a different place. 285 00:18:52,564 --> 00:18:56,969 They were playing it and it was coming through them, but it was so organic, 286 00:18:57,002 --> 00:18:58,871 and I love that feeling in music. 287 00:18:59,171 --> 00:19:00,305 Yes, so powerful. 288 00:19:00,305 --> 00:19:03,142 One thing that we got from our generation 289 00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:07,179 of artists is that we are now more 290 00:19:07,179 --> 00:19:10,315 and more in mainstream media. 291 00:19:10,349 --> 00:19:16,622 At the time where us as artists, we didn't 292 00:19:16,622 --> 00:19:21,426 have necessarily role models to grow up. 293 00:19:21,460 --> 00:19:23,929 But now it's coming more and more. 294 00:19:23,962 --> 00:19:29,801 And also we start to see artists with disabilities or artists with 295 00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:34,406 some health issues who don't have any shame or any- 296 00:19:34,406 --> 00:19:35,707 And they talk about it. 297 00:19:35,707 --> 00:19:37,743 They talk about it, exactly. Yeah. 298 00:19:37,776 --> 00:19:38,243 Yeah. 299 00:19:38,277 --> 00:19:44,683 And I think that especially '80s, '90s, artists had to be these obscure figures 300 00:19:44,716 --> 00:19:46,685 that were superheroes, right? 301 00:19:46,685 --> 00:19:53,592 But you didn't know that much about them other than what was in their bio, right? 302 00:19:53,625 --> 00:19:58,297 But I love that music has opened up, and it's real now. 303 00:19:58,330 --> 00:20:00,098 It's like people want know about you. 304 00:20:00,132 --> 00:20:02,467 They want to know who you are as a person. 305 00:20:02,501 --> 00:20:04,069 They want to know your heart. 306 00:20:04,102 --> 00:20:06,438 They want to know what you're thinking. You know what I'm saying? 307 00:20:06,438 --> 00:20:10,642 And we don't have to be these superhuman beings, even though they still 308 00:20:10,676 --> 00:20:14,613 see us that way because we get up on stage and we come alive, right? 309 00:20:14,646 --> 00:20:17,783 But we can actually be more vulnerable now. 310 00:20:17,816 --> 00:20:19,051 And it's so crazy. 311 00:20:19,084 --> 00:20:25,390 I didn't realize that Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles and Andrea Bocelli, 312 00:20:25,424 --> 00:20:29,928 I didn't realize that they would be 313 00:20:30,662 --> 00:20:32,464 role models for me 314 00:20:32,464 --> 00:20:36,435 because I never knew that I would be here in my life. 315 00:20:36,468 --> 00:20:41,907 But I pull from them so much now because I saw them do it, 316 00:20:41,940 --> 00:20:43,942 and I saw that it was okay, and 317 00:20:43,942 --> 00:20:50,349 they looked like me, and I enjoyed their music, and they made me feel the way. 318 00:20:50,382 --> 00:20:56,121 So I tap into them, to their spirit, to their essence now, and just 319 00:20:56,121 --> 00:21:01,660 really try to give that same energy, not worrying about how my body is moving or 320 00:21:01,660 --> 00:21:05,731 what people are thinking or if somebody is judging me, I don't care about that. 321 00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:07,899 How - is the music being delivered? 322 00:21:07,933 --> 00:21:10,135 Am I letting it move through? 323 00:21:10,168 --> 00:21:11,269 That's what I care about. 324 00:21:11,269 --> 00:21:16,141 Yeah. And we are both - We know each other from RAMPD. 325 00:21:16,174 --> 00:21:19,678 And this organization was co-created by Lachi. 326 00:21:19,678 --> 00:21:21,913 And speaking of someone who is really- 327 00:21:21,913 --> 00:21:25,884 Absolutely. Let me tell you my Lachi story, okay? 328 00:21:25,884 --> 00:21:26,518 Okay. 329 00:21:26,518 --> 00:21:28,920 I had... I'm so sorry. 330 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,622 I don't need to cut you off. 331 00:21:30,656 --> 00:21:33,859 But my Lachi story is so cool. 332 00:21:33,859 --> 00:21:35,861 I was 333 00:21:36,161 --> 00:21:38,263 going through a huge depression, 334 00:21:38,297 --> 00:21:43,502 and I'm like, do I go back to Corporate America, 335 00:21:43,502 --> 00:21:46,271 or do I really just take another stab at music. 336 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:48,307 And you know those voices in your head that tell you, 337 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,542 Oh, nobody's going to pay attention to you. 338 00:21:50,542 --> 00:21:53,245 No one's going to take you serious. You're blind. 339 00:21:53,245 --> 00:21:55,480 There aren't any blind singers right now. 340 00:21:55,514 --> 00:21:59,451 It's not in vogue to be a disabled artist. 341 00:21:59,484 --> 00:22:05,424 So I thought, and then I'm scrolling through Instagram, and 342 00:22:05,424 --> 00:22:10,896 I come across Lachi, and she was doing her 343 00:22:11,897 --> 00:22:15,300 Black Blind Girl word of the day that she does. 344 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:19,071 And I'm like, Who is this? 345 00:22:19,104 --> 00:22:19,738 Who is this? 346 00:22:19,771 --> 00:22:23,575 And I go and I go to her page and I'm looking, I'm like, 347 00:22:23,608 --> 00:22:26,111 oh, my gosh, she's a blind artist. She's actually a blind artist. 348 00:22:26,144 --> 00:22:27,279 Then I listen to her music. 349 00:22:27,312 --> 00:22:29,815 I'm like, okay, so she jamming, too. 350 00:22:29,848 --> 00:22:32,918 I'm like, this is my inspiration. 351 00:22:32,918 --> 00:22:39,624 She really was that catalyst to say, if this blind black woman 352 00:22:39,658 --> 00:22:43,662 can do this, then I can do this, too. It's possible. 353 00:22:43,695 --> 00:22:48,734 And I think representation in music is so important. 354 00:22:48,767 --> 00:22:51,470 And she was that representation 355 00:22:51,503 --> 00:22:56,475 from an adult perspective for me. 356 00:22:56,508 --> 00:22:58,076 She really, really was. 357 00:22:58,110 --> 00:23:04,950 And her art, what she does, and even RAMPD, her organization, 358 00:23:04,983 --> 00:23:10,722 they really showed me that we can be taken seriously in the music business. 359 00:23:10,722 --> 00:23:16,595 We do have a place, and our art is just as good or better than a lot of 360 00:23:16,628 --> 00:23:19,798 the stuff that's going on in mainstream, and we should be mainstream. 361 00:23:19,798 --> 00:23:23,668 So I really applaud her with all of her efforts with RAMPD 362 00:23:23,668 --> 00:23:28,340 and how she helps other disabled artists. 363 00:23:28,774 --> 00:23:29,875 Yes. [Laughs.] 364 00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:34,413 Absolutely. I know I'm long-winded, Diane. 365 00:23:34,446 --> 00:23:36,515 I love it. I mean, really. 366 00:23:36,548 --> 00:23:42,053 Then all this, RAMPD, I was 367 00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:45,924 speaking with Lachi just before she launched RAMPD. 368 00:23:45,924 --> 00:23:49,060 Then I spoke with her just after she launched RAMPD. 369 00:23:49,060 --> 00:23:54,266 All the project she had in mind on that. 370 00:23:54,299 --> 00:23:56,735 Look at where it is today. 371 00:23:56,768 --> 00:23:59,004 It's a fantastic organization. 372 00:23:59,037 --> 00:24:00,906 It's an amazing organization. 373 00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:05,343 Yeah. And meeting so many fantastic artists. Wow! 374 00:24:05,343 --> 00:24:06,478 [Laughs.] 375 00:24:06,478 --> 00:24:08,647 See, I get to talk to you because of RAMPD. 376 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,248 You know what I'm saying? 377 00:24:10,282 --> 00:24:13,351 How awesome is that? 378 00:24:13,385 --> 00:24:19,825 Speaking of that, I know that - I like to talk about the place of disability 379 00:24:19,825 --> 00:24:24,362 in the arts and the fact that we work in this environment where we promote 380 00:24:24,396 --> 00:24:30,869 the fact that artists with disabilities are awesome, basically, because we are. 381 00:24:30,902 --> 00:24:34,506 Right. Because we are. [Laughs.] 382 00:24:34,506 --> 00:24:37,576 So what does it mean for you to work in 383 00:24:37,609 --> 00:24:41,079 that environment where we 384 00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:43,782 promote disability in the arts? 385 00:24:43,815 --> 00:24:45,817 It means everything to me. 386 00:24:45,817 --> 00:24:48,787 I say it all the time that if I can 387 00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:54,492 inspire or encourage or just show one 388 00:24:54,526 --> 00:24:57,729 future disabled artist, whether they're a little kid now or 389 00:24:57,762 --> 00:25:00,499 they're an adult or whatever, if I could just move one person 390 00:25:00,532 --> 00:25:05,303 to just believe and see that I did it and I'm doing it. 391 00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:12,010 And it doesn't have to fit into the mold of what the pop star 392 00:25:12,043 --> 00:25:16,781 or the RnB star or the rock star looks like, then I'm doing my job. 393 00:25:16,781 --> 00:25:18,917 I'm a black man first. 394 00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:20,418 I'm a blind man. 395 00:25:20,452 --> 00:25:21,753 I am a gay man. 396 00:25:21,786 --> 00:25:25,824 So I belong to a lot of different intersecting communities. 397 00:25:25,857 --> 00:25:27,692 And I want to make sure that I'm representing 398 00:25:27,692 --> 00:25:31,029 all of those intersections in excellent. 399 00:25:31,062 --> 00:25:35,700 So I want to inspire, hopefully, 400 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:39,604 little disabled kids or even disabled adults, 401 00:25:39,604 --> 00:25:44,242 just so they can see that we're doing this and we are able, we're capable. 402 00:25:44,242 --> 00:25:47,646 So If I can inspire a little gay kid 403 00:25:47,646 --> 00:25:51,650 or LGBTQ+ kid, that 404 00:25:51,650 --> 00:25:56,588 your version of LGBTQ doesn't have to look like someone else's. 405 00:25:56,621 --> 00:25:58,723 It can look just like you. 406 00:25:58,723 --> 00:26:02,894 If I'm inspiring them, if I inspire a little black boy or girl 407 00:26:02,928 --> 00:26:06,765 or any person of color, kid of color, then I'm doing my job. 408 00:26:06,798 --> 00:26:11,870 So it means the world to me to be able to do this as a disabled artist 409 00:26:11,903 --> 00:26:16,308 and do it in excellence and really represent for my community. 410 00:26:16,341 --> 00:26:17,976 It means the world. 411 00:26:18,009 --> 00:26:20,445 Yay. [Laughs.] 412 00:26:20,445 --> 00:26:23,481 Sorry. I love it. 413 00:26:23,481 --> 00:26:25,584 No way. [Laughs.] 414 00:26:25,617 --> 00:26:29,054 I hope that was a good yay. 415 00:26:29,087 --> 00:26:31,222 Oh, my God. 416 00:26:31,756 --> 00:26:37,462 Well, speaking of inspiration and people who might have inspired you in your career, 417 00:26:37,462 --> 00:26:42,133 and maybe if you have someone in mind 418 00:26:42,133 --> 00:26:45,437 who has guided you during your career 419 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:51,543 or has been specifically present in your life, who would it be and why? 420 00:26:51,609 --> 00:26:59,451 You know, what I have to do is first tip my hats off to my family. 421 00:27:00,218 --> 00:27:02,988 Deshaymond Media LLC is my business. 422 00:27:03,021 --> 00:27:06,057 It's my media company that I release from and all of that stuff 423 00:27:06,091 --> 00:27:07,993 and all of my art comes from. 424 00:27:08,026 --> 00:27:13,698 But it's a family business, and I have a family that loves me 425 00:27:13,698 --> 00:27:16,034 and believes in me so much. 426 00:27:16,034 --> 00:27:19,204 They inspire me to be the best me. 427 00:27:19,204 --> 00:27:25,677 Them just putting all of their time and energy and their love and the attention 428 00:27:25,710 --> 00:27:30,648 into my dream is such a blessing. 429 00:27:30,682 --> 00:27:33,618 And I know people don't always have that. 430 00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:37,255 So they inspire me, and they definitely influence me. 431 00:27:37,288 --> 00:27:41,860 But if it had to be on the art side, from an artist standpoint, 432 00:27:41,893 --> 00:27:47,232 I think that most definitely Lachi is very high on that list. 433 00:27:47,265 --> 00:27:52,704 Just in the short time that I've been in her presence, been acquainted 434 00:27:52,704 --> 00:27:57,308 with her, it's so many things that she's just, by watching her, 435 00:27:57,342 --> 00:28:00,845 has opened me up to and provided me with. 436 00:28:00,845 --> 00:28:03,682 So hats off to her. 437 00:28:03,682 --> 00:28:07,052 I love that I saw - 438 00:28:07,052 --> 00:28:11,222 I got to really see Ray Charles before losing my sight 439 00:28:11,222 --> 00:28:15,794 and Stevie Wonder, because I remember their music videos and I remember their performance, 440 00:28:15,794 --> 00:28:19,164 and I remember how infectious they were. 441 00:28:19,164 --> 00:28:22,934 And I think of those images that I saw that was so powerful 442 00:28:22,967 --> 00:28:27,205 to me as a little kid, and I try to put that into my live performance. 443 00:28:27,205 --> 00:28:30,475 And I want to make people feel like that. 444 00:28:30,508 --> 00:28:37,515 So those three artists, definitely, but also who taught me how to be an artist. 445 00:28:37,515 --> 00:28:41,219 And I told you it was going to be multiple people, Diane. 446 00:28:41,219 --> 00:28:42,554 [Laughs.] 447 00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:48,493 But Monica, I have to say her because 448 00:28:48,693 --> 00:28:54,666 she is the epitome of being real for me. 449 00:28:54,699 --> 00:29:00,371 When I first saw her first music video or heard her on the radio, I remember 450 00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:03,108 just saying, she sounds like my cousin. 451 00:29:03,141 --> 00:29:05,376 She sounds like the girls in the neighborhood. 452 00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,178 She sounds like my sisters. 453 00:29:07,212 --> 00:29:09,547 She sounds like those people. 454 00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:13,518 And then when I saw her, how beautiful she was, but she was just a black girl 455 00:29:13,551 --> 00:29:18,223 just twisting her neck and being everything she was and confident, 456 00:29:18,256 --> 00:29:20,458 I pull from her confidence. 457 00:29:20,492 --> 00:29:25,763 She taught me how to be organic as an artist and not care what people thought. 458 00:29:25,797 --> 00:29:31,603 You heard my album, so I say whatever I want to say. 459 00:29:31,603 --> 00:29:34,906 She taught me how to do that and stand up in it, but still do it 460 00:29:34,906 --> 00:29:40,011 with sophistication and class and still do it at a very high level. 461 00:29:40,612 --> 00:29:44,048 She really did - Watching her, listening to her, her interviews 462 00:29:44,082 --> 00:29:45,316 and all of that stuff. 463 00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:51,489 She taught me how to do what artists do, the interviews for that matter. 464 00:29:51,523 --> 00:29:54,526 She taught me how to do that by watching her. 465 00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:59,564 So, yeah, those artists are who inspired me. 466 00:30:00,064 --> 00:30:01,432 Yes. 467 00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:05,003 Well, thank you so much for this conversation. 468 00:30:05,003 --> 00:30:11,509 I wish you all the best for all your future projects, future albums, future singles, 469 00:30:11,509 --> 00:30:14,546 and everything that will come. 470 00:30:15,113 --> 00:30:17,515 Thank you so much, Diane. Thank you for having me. 471 00:30:17,515 --> 00:30:22,287 And big ups to the ArtsAbly. I love what you do with that organization. Keep it going. 472 00:30:22,287 --> 00:30:24,722 Thank you. Have a great day. 473 00:30:24,756 --> 00:30:26,624 You too. Bye. 474 00:30:27,725 --> 00:30:32,864 [Closing theme music]